Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frank Sinatra: At the USS Midway

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The consensus appears to be clear that this particular album should be deleted. However, there is no clear consensus to delete the others in their entirety: My suggestion would be to nominate these separately (although perhaps grouped as appropriate) -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 15:12, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Sinatra: At the USS Midway

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Article concerns a bootleg Frank Sinatra concert/non notable album with minimal independent coverage. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 20:30, 9 June 2010 (UTC) I am also nominating the following related pages because they are not notable Sinatra albums and there is minimal independent coverage of them. Though some have links to allmusic, there are thousands of Sinatra compilation albums on there. I believe the only Sinatra albums we should have coverage of are his official studio and live albums, and a few compilation albums as listed on here [1], a rough list similar to many listed in other publications. User:OlBlueEyesIsBack has also repeatedly refused to engage with me on this issue.:[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 21:20, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: All appear to be non-notable bootlegs, articles are unreferenced and contain point of view statements. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 05:40, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete the compilation items, although that would call for relisting. Ultimately, I think that this nomination is going to fail for several reasons. First, the first one is being nominated on grounds that it is a "bootleg album", and then the others are being thrown in even though none of those are they are a "bootleg album". Second, although it is implied that the others are, though not bootlegs, are compilation albums. However, recordings of live concerts can hardly be called "compilation albums". While the nomination is certainly made in good faith, the mass nomination has not been thought out. There is no common thread, save for Ol' Blue Eyes, who certainly is notable. Start over. Mandsford 12:54, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Very good points from Mandsford above. One blanket deletion rationale is not going to work for all of the articles in the extensive list. It would be useful for Gareth E Kegg to withdraw this blanket AfD and create newer combined nominations (or even a whole bunch of individual AfDs, time permitting) with more detailed arguments based on the nature of each item. Also, another way to look at each of these suspicious albums is to think about whether ol' Frank had any input at all in their production and release, or whether they are useless quickie items cranked out by record companies or fans to make a shifty buck. --DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 17:53, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Thanks guys. I'll do the combined afd idea. What makes a notable post-career compilation album though? Gareth E Kegg (talk) 20:42, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think that very few would qualify. In the Frank Sinatra discography, there's a section called "Post-career albums with new material", which would be significant; other than that anything called "greatest" or "best" is, by definition, nothing new. Mandsford 01:35, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frank Sinatra: At the USS Midway

Frank Sinatra: At the USS Midway

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